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- From: jpeacock@ringer.cs.utsa.edu (Jason Peacock)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
- Subject: Re: MUI
- Date: 4 Mar 1996 04:51:55 GMT
- Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio
- Message-ID: <4hdstb$2aj@ringer.cs.utsa.edu>
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- singh (singh@wwa.com) wrote:
- : If you have a very very fast cpu MUI is okay I guess. On my 3000/040 it's
- : usuable; on my brothers 2000/020 it's as slick as half dried rubber
- : cement.
-
- I really don't get this. I don't see how my 40Mhz 68030 could be
- faster than your 68040 at any speed. MUI 2.x was a bit slow but
- still tolerable and MUI 3.x feels about 2-3 times faster, which is
- nice. The other stuff out there (gtlibrary, BGUI, Triton, and internal
- mechanisms) doesn't feel any faster than MUI anymore. SnoopDOS 3.0
- feels just as fast as ExecutivePrefs_MUI does in terms of screen
- updates and user response.
-
- : It really boggles my mind why with a nice, small, fast OS like the Amiga
- : so many programmers want to tether it to an interface as sluggish an MUI.
-
- I've always wondered if people thought MUI was so slow on a nice, small,
- fast OS like the Amiga, imagine what it would be like if someone tried
- to implement something similar for Windows or Macintosh.
-
- : It's a cruel twist of fate that MUI has become so popular -- I
- : dunno, maybe programmers are too lazy to write their own boopsi gadgets?
-
- Why re-invent the wheel? If someone's already done it, use it. It
- does no good to have a "not invented here" attitude. Why waste
- time building another boopsi gadget if one that meets your needs
- already exists for use?
-
- : It beats me, but all in all, after using MUI on my brother's 2000/020 it
- : makes me feel sorry -- I always thought the amiga community was the one
- : group that took care not to make older machines obsolete. The "hey if
- : they user feels the interface is kludgy, he or she needs more horsepower"
- : theory is way too MicroSoft/Intel for my liking. :(
-
- I still think we do. Amiga Technologies is coming out with the
- Amiga Surfer package which will be a 14Mhz 68ec020 A1200 running
- Internet software that requires MUI (included) to run. AT must
- think that the A1200 is up to handling MUI.
-
- Besides, there's only so much one can do with limited resources. I
- remember a program called Paperclip Publisher for the C64. It
- amazed me with the amount of features they were able to put into a
- computer that had a single 140KB floppy drive, 64KB RAM, and a 1Mhz
- processor. I was not amazed, however, that the program ran with all
- the speed of molasses in January. GEOS for the C64/C128 is another
- example. These computers were being pushed to their limits by these
- programs and the speed was barely tolerable.
-
- If you want more features, and have them done well, you can't expect
- the hardware to remain static and still cope with growing software.
-
- I remember the complaints from people who cried that their 512KB
- Amigas were running out of memory when Release 2.0 was installed.
- I think the unofficial recommended memory was 1MB. Release 2.0 could
- run in 512KB, but that was like saying Win95 can run in 4MB. It
- works, just not very well.
-
- Pagestream 3.0h2 is about 1.1 MB in size and not everything works
- yet. It is reasonable to believe that the amount of features that
- PGS 3.0h2 has can be fully implemented if the target was the ability
- to run the program in a 1 MB or even a 2MB Amiga? Of course not.
-
- : Just one girls opinion.....
-
- And I'm glad to hear it.
-
- : WaveGirl
-
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- | Jason Peacock, a poor student | Jason_Peacock@fcircus.sat.tx.us |
- | majoring in Computer Science | jpeacock@ringer.cs.utsa.edu |
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